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Xamey
08-26-2009, 05:29 PM
I watched code geass recently and couldnt help but thinking the situation between Lelouch and Sazaku was much like Light and L in how Lelouch kept coming up with smart ways to cover up his tracks and such and i was just wondering if anyone else thought they seemed simialar?:original:

OceanBacon
08-26-2009, 05:35 PM
People have been saying their similar since it aired. Probably because both Light and Lelouch are trying to build a new, better world. But, there is a major difference between them: Light is EVIL. He becomes power crazed and paranoid after L dies, and starts killing people just for disagreeing with him. Lelouch, however, fakes being evil so that the world can rally together to fight one common evil.

Shadamir
08-26-2009, 05:40 PM
The main character dies in both, Death note and code geass

Xamey
08-26-2009, 05:40 PM
People have been saying their similar since it aired. Probably because both Light and Lelouch are trying to build a new, better world. But, there is a major difference between them: Light is EVIL. He becomes power crazed and paranoid after L dies, and starts killing people just for disagreeing with him. Lelouch, however, fakes being evil so that the world can rally together to fight one common evil.

Lelouches methods were questionable though, many people died because of him so you could exactly call him good

Shadamir
08-26-2009, 05:41 PM
well, he became hated by everyone in order to save the world

Xamey
08-26-2009, 05:46 PM
I just thought i would ask because im prety new to Forums but is there a way to tell if someone has replyed to your post?

OceanBacon
08-26-2009, 05:48 PM
Go to new posts, and if someone replied, your thread will be in bold letters.

Fletchaaa
08-26-2009, 05:51 PM
Both Light and Lelouch use unorthodox methods to try and overall do something good. I would say Light was more crazy though, whereas Lelouch was just unlucky.

Xamey
08-26-2009, 05:57 PM
Go to new posts, and if someone replied, your thread will be in bold letters.

Thank you very much :original:

Akai
08-26-2009, 06:51 PM
Both Light and Lelouch were pretty insane, and they both started out doing what seemed to be the right thing, even if it was a little extreme. However, Lelouch never forgot what he was fighting for, no matter how crazy he went or how many people he killed. He sacrificed everything for the greater good, making him a true hero. Light started out with a somewhat noble cause, but he got carried away, got too confident, and started calling himself God. He killed without good reason, although you can never forget the fact that he spared his sister's life.

I also thought Rolo was a lot like Misa, and Suzaku was a bit like L.

Gunsguru
08-26-2009, 09:54 PM
Both the animes did turn into **** near the end....

Zero
08-27-2009, 06:39 AM
i noticed a similarity between Lelouch and Light but i never thought about Sosouke having similarities to L in that regard.

both are pretty good shows but i definately prefer CG as the main character is a lot more like able

Big Brother Diedrich
10-08-2009, 08:03 PM
I noticed this long ago. They are similar as to how Light and Lelouch plan things.

Cubonefan3
10-08-2009, 11:27 PM
But, there is a major difference between them: Light is EVIL. He becomes power crazed and paranoid after L dies, and starts killing people just for disagreeing with him. Lelouch, however, fakes being evil so that the world can rally together to fight one common evil.

Light is better than lelouch. and Light wasnt evil. He sacrificed his entire being just to make the world a better place and end all wars. (in a way you could say he was uniting all people under Kira) People who disagreed with him only stood in his way. No way in hell he would "negotiate" with them, epecially when he had to keep his identitiy a secret. killing them was the only logical thing to do.
Lelouch... i cant say much about him. I havent watched the whole series of Code Geass ( i didnt like it) But i like what Light stood for more than Lelouch.

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-09-2009, 12:44 AM
I agree with you on some things Cubone but you have to admit in the end the Deathnote corrupted Light as he began to aslo use it for personel gain. I went with Light all the way through the series for making the world a better place and such but sadly he died in a cowardly way where Lelouch died(possibley) with honor and also achieved worldpeace just like Light did.
The difference in their deaths is what made me decide which one I go for, and personally I liked Lelouch better then Light. Thats just me

oby100
10-17-2009, 12:03 AM
Light is better than lelouch. and Light wasnt evil. He sacrificed his entire being just to make the world a better place and end all wars. (in a way you could say he was uniting all people under Kira) People who disagreed with him only stood in his way. No way in hell he would "negotiate" with them, epecially when he had to keep his identitiy a secret. killing them was the only logical thing to do.
Lelouch... i cant say much about him. I havent watched the whole series of Code Geass ( i didnt like it) But i like what Light stood for more than Lelouch.

Light was a senseless killer, hence his name kira (kind of funny his name came from japanese mispronouncing English word "killer"). Killing people for any crime they commit creates complete anarchy, and is a completely unjust way of dealing with people.

Some are all but forced into crime by large businesses who don't pay decent wages, so this kind of justice system strongly favors the rich who never have a need to commit crime. And is Light supposed to sit and judge the 6 billion plus people in the world? And after he dies, his government would completely fall apart.

Light was very much evil. He hid behind this notion of justice to attain the public's approval, although his true motive was power, as his intelligence surely lends him the knowledge that he'd never be able to judge 6 billion people in life and certainly not once he died. He never had to sacrifice anything, and got a sick pleasure out of playing God.

Lelouche, on the other hand, fought to attain a GENTLER world, as he realized perfection to be impossible (as he told the emperor in c's world). With this goal in mind, he sacrificed his feelings, his sense of morality, and eventually his own life to improve the world.

Basically, Lelouche was pretty selfless in his plan, while Light was really only concerned with himself approving of a world he'd create.

VampireInuFreak
10-17-2009, 07:51 PM
When I was about halfway through the series, I thought Lelouch was going power crazy in the same way that Light seemed to have near the end. I actually almost stopped watching the anime because I didn't want to see that happen again. Then it got later on and I realized that Lelouch never forgot himself. He didn't lose himself in the power games, or the power itself. He was a genuinely good person who saw only one option to eliminate longterm suffering from war with Brittania. He created Light's original thought: a better world. He just didn't go off killing needlessly and destroying the good person he was inside.

BTW, I see some questions as to Lelouch's death. Did he really die? I don't know, but I know a fanfiction author who would get your attention with her take on the whole thing: Tobi Tortue. Read her story, From the Ashes, at this link: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5171622/1/From_The_Ashes

oby100
10-18-2009, 02:37 AM
Please don't start the debate over Lelouche's death here.

Basically, he did die, but a small group of fans argue he's alive because it makes them happier about the ending. He was even on the final death count by the creator.

Anyway, there are lots of forums already debating over this, so don't start it here.

MrYoSo901
10-18-2009, 09:01 PM
Yeah the creator did kill a lot of characters and some of them we're pretty cool but he just killed 'em so it comes to no surprise that he killed his most valuable character (MVC XD)..

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-18-2009, 11:42 PM
I think we have all come to a conclusion.
Light did start off with honest intentions but he became corrupted and that God Complex he had really messed him up
Lelouch did what was neccesary for World Peace. Even if many others though it was wrong

Lelouch was the Hero, Light was a tragic Hero(he failed himself)

xbirdyx112
10-19-2009, 02:51 AM
I think we have all come to a conclusion.
Light did start off with honest intentions but he became corrupted and that God Complex he had really messed him up
Lelouch did what was neccesary for World Peace. Even if many others though it was wrong

Lelouch was the Hero, Light was a tragic Hero(he failed himself)

Best explaination ive heard about the two series, but they are still very similar, except code geass has more action, and kind of romance in it were as, death note just has its supernatural feel to it. I think we mainly think these are so similar because Light and Lelouche are so similar the was they do things just gives them that feel.

oby100
10-19-2009, 10:13 PM
I think the main reason they have such a similar feel is that both center around psychological wars and, obviously, that they both wanted to create a perfect world.

MrDuck
10-20-2009, 05:02 AM
Light is badass and Lelouche is an extremely nerfed version of Light. I mean Light can control people before he kills them, and so can Lelouche, but Light has too kill them afterwards which adds to the badass-ness.

L is also very interesting and you never know what he'll think of next. Suzaku has periods all throughout the anime and jump from one personality to the other, and its not even a disguise he's just unstable (same with Lelouche).

The mecha part of it just made Code Geass meh, the only reason I continued the second season was because of the always fantastic Sunrise girls xD.

Quite dissapointing, and the only character I really liked in CG was CC.

oby100
10-20-2009, 10:04 PM
Wow, your argument is so invalid. "It adds to his badass-ness?" Really?
Code Geass is much more interesting because the events in it are more spontaneous while death note revolves around a single conflict or two.

Then you say you like L because he's unpredictable, but then bash Lelouche and Suzaku for having different personalities, however it's pretty much the same thing.

Noobs
10-20-2009, 11:15 PM
i think it is because the protagnist are such perfecfionists. and the antagonists are the warriors of justice. i think.

oby100
10-20-2009, 11:56 PM
It's hard to even tell who the protagonists are. It's obvious who the main characters are, but I never thought of Light as good, so I could never consider him the protagonists.

And I think it'd be best to say that the main characters were utilitarians while their opposition only believed in the law and never sacraficed human lives.

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-22-2009, 12:23 PM
They both wanted to make a better world and they both did, just what happened to the protagonists differed between Light and Lelouch........they both died but in different circumstances and ways and in the story the ending is everything.
I believe we can only most precisely understand Kira and Zero as characters if we look at their deaths and their attitudies/demeanors before their deaths

The Other
10-23-2009, 03:18 PM
Light and Lelouch........they both died

I'm sorry, I just cant believe Lelouch died. it seems extremely unlikely and there is decent evidence to prove he is still living. C.C talking to him. all the requirements for the Code where met, making him Immortal of a sort. and he had the same glitch in power or what ever that C.C had causing his memories to spill into people at the touch. which he did not have before the requirements where met for the Code.


Yea the similarity of Code Geass and Death Note are large the whole time I watched Death Note I had it stuck in my head that it was a Code Geass rip off. probably because I had just finished Code Geass and it was my favorite anime of the date.
(I am now torn between code geass and Heroic Age)
Dang near everything was the same, the essence of it at least, They both try to change the world, they both find power by incident, they both have the original owners of the power with them (in a sense) helping with there goal more or less. and they both have a death scene whether they really died or not is beside the point ( LONG LIVE LELOUCH !).
it is in my best opinion that the two of the anime are indeed... Twins.
one good and one evil twin. one twin that lasted longer, and one that died young ( code geass 50+ episodes, Death note not so much)

but there is a big difference, Lelouch "died" with dignity and completely achieved his goal, Light died like a twit, an evil appearing twit at that. and I was never totally sure if he even came close to what he wanted or not.

Light having to kill them does not add to his "greatness" Lights power is only chaos, where as Lelouch can use his power with his desired effect and no harm done unless he wished it. I agree that L was a great character in Death Note, and C.C is epic as well, but Code Geass is far supreme to Death Note. Lelouch was never "unstable" Lelouch kept the same Ideals throughout the anime, his causing destruction to turn all hate and blame towards him and then turn it around to obliterate all such cruel emotions was amazingly effective in the anime. Light totally sucked at his plan, unless his plan was to suck. ( however Death Note still made an entertaining show) also his becoming corrupt destroyed him. leaving his struggle pointless.
They are alike, but not the same, CG and DN.

MrDuck
10-23-2009, 11:45 PM
Light having to kill them does not add to his "greatness" Lights power is only chaos, where as Lelouch can use his power with his desired effect and no harm done unless he wished it.

and he seemed to wish that 90% of the time, i mean when he was doing that thing to break apart the city's layers, he didnt have to make the people on their post kill their co-wrokers and then kill themselves now did he? The deconstruction already stated and there was nothing they could of done to stop it and yet he still killed them.


I agree that L was a great character in Death Note, and C.C is epic as well, but Code Geass is far supreme to Death Note. Lelouch was never "unstable" Lelouch kept the same Ideals throughout the anime, his causing destruction to turn all hate and blame towards him and then turn it around to obliterate all such cruel emotions was amazingly effective in the anime.


so he was completely calm and rational when Nanily was envolved wasn't he? He completely ditched the battle field, left all his people hanging, and then was made Suzaku's *****, great plan dude =D

Light totally sucked at his plan, unless his plan was to suck. ( however Death Note still made an entertaining show) also his becoming corrupt destroyed him. leaving his struggle pointless.

Yes he did become corrupt at the end, but it does say in the anime a number of times that crime dramatically decreases, and his whole goal was to make a perfect world. Lelouche's plan was to stop majour conflicts, whose to say people killing each other on a small scale, robbery, and rape didnt happen? Light wanted to get rid of ALL of it. He even wanted to later on make all people hard working and a benefit to society, but he never got around to it.

(this is shown when his "henchman" made a kira announcement saying he will also start punishing people who are no use to society, and Light get angry because he says this step is too early)

oby100
10-24-2009, 12:39 PM
and he seemed to wish that 90% of the time, i mean when he was doing that thing to break apart the city's layers, he didnt have to make the people on their post kill their co-wrokers and then kill themselves now did he? The deconstruction already stated and there was nothing they could of done to stop it and yet he still killed them.

I'd have to agree that the chaos he created was on purpose. However, the other guy's point was that he ALWAYS had to create chaos since it always ended in someone's death. But I disagree that Lelouche's power could ever be counted as harmless. When the black knights found out about geass, they immediately turned on Lelouch because they felt so violated that he could bend their will. Also, many times when he doesn't kill his victims, it's because it's in a setup to kill thousands of others.

so he was completely calm and rational when Nanily was envolved wasn't he? He completely ditched the battle field, left all his people hanging, and then was made Suzaku's *****, great plan dude =D

And then he gave up on life when Nunnally "died" and the black knights turned on him.

Yes he did become corrupt at the end, but it does say in the anime a number of times that crime dramatically decreases, and his whole goal was to make a perfect world. Lelouche's plan was to stop majour conflicts, whose to say people killing each other on a small scale, robbery, and rape didnt happen? Light wanted to get rid of ALL of it. He even wanted to later on make all people hard working and a benefit to society, but he never got around to it.

Crime only decreased while an omniscient force rained judgment on them, but with Kira gone, they can begin their crime again. And it would take a while before the ENTIRE world even believed Kira existed. Do you think many African, South American and Southern Asian countries would believe the Japanese news of a "god" killing criminals with some sort of magic? And Lelouche was not trying to stop crime, because it was an idealistic and impossible goal (although a world without war is still pretty idealistic)[/QUOTE]

MrDuck
10-24-2009, 10:46 PM
Crime only decreased while an omniscient force rained judgment on them, but with Kira gone, they can begin their crime again. And it would take a while before the ENTIRE world even believed Kira existed. Do you think many African, South American and Southern Asian countries would believe the Japanese news of a "god" killing criminals with some sort of magic? And Lelouche was not trying to stop crime, because it was an idealistic and impossible goal (although a world without war is still pretty idealistic)[/QUOTE]

Well a while after Lelouche is gone, even with the black knights another war will happen..... I mean we all say how we hate war but it keeps happening over and over. I say Lelouche plan would make their world peacefull for a decade or two but war will just break out again anyway so all the people he used and killed will be for naught....

Also if you say that Zero's influence can be passed on and on then Light can also pass on the Death Note on quite easily.....
Btw i may be wrong but didnt kira kill all the criminals he heard of not just the ones in Japan?.

Lastly no one can actually prove there's a god but yet hundreds of millions believe in him right? So why cant kira be that influential if people can ACTUALLY see criminals dropping like flies?

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-25-2009, 12:26 AM
Good point with the Kira and people believing in him as a God.
Problem is that Kira went INSANE. Who knows what more he would have done if he had defeated Near, although ironically I did root for Light>Near

oby100
10-25-2009, 03:07 PM
Well a while after Lelouche is gone, even with the black knights another war will happen..... I mean we all say how we hate war but it keeps happening over and over. I say Lelouche plan would make their world peacefull for a decade or two but war will just break out again anyway so all the people he used and killed will be for naught....

I don't believe in the possibility of the Zero Requiem either, but at least he achieved his goal of creating a world superpower that can stem the violence wherever it happens.

Any wars would have to be fought under ground with the flayas (no idea how to spell this non existent word) looming overhead. Obviously no empire lasts forever, but for a while, there would be a fear induced peace.

Also if you say that Zero's influence can be passed on and on then Light can also pass on the Death Note on quite easily.....
Btw i may be wrong but didnt kira kill all the criminals he heard of not just the ones in Japan?

Lights influence can be passed on, but passing on his power would lead to a corrupt leader. And if he is going to be god of his new world, he needs to be seen in public, right? And if he did, someone would assassinate this cruel and ruthless dictator, and the death note would be put into a history museum as the ramblings of a crazed psychopath. He can't truly rule in the shadows.

It's much easier to pass on Zero's influence because it's just a mask, and we don't know how much power really had after Lelouche was killed. He could have just acted as a peace embassador while a more democratic government was put into place.

Of course, but how many names can he write in a day? Isn't it possible to run out of the Death Note? And don't you think some countries would rebel and cut themselves off from outside communication to stop Kira?

Lastly no one can actually prove there's a god but yet hundreds of millions believe in him right? So why cant kira be that influential if people can ACTUALLY see criminals dropping like flies?

Not really the same at all. Every culture takes pride in it's own culture and wouldn't just absorb Japan's new god. Besides, he's not killing criminals in every town, in every country, in every continent. Therefore, it would take his entire lifetime to convince everyone of Kira.

And I believe that as a last resort, the U.S., North Korea, Russia and other countries wouldn't just sit and take Kira's judgment. They would all much sooner nuke the hell out of Japan then surrender to Kira. I mean, we invaded Iraq over the SUSPICION of nukes. With a guaranteed WMD in Japan, I think even the U.N. would be on our side.

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-25-2009, 05:25 PM
Point, no empire lasts forever and even if Near hadnt brought down Kira.......somebody would of and theres also the big chance that Light would have brought himself down....I mean he pretty much went nuts in the years after he defeated L and wasnt the same anymore. He became corrupt and he only got what was coming to him

oby100
10-26-2009, 06:25 PM
A shining example of what happens to any human being (or, at least in a line of successors) that are given too much power. It swells their heads so they can't see what's right in front of them. And with so much democratic literature from the past that drove the French to revolt, it's only a matter of time before they kill Kira and burn the notebook that brought hell to earth (at least I hope they'd burn it).

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-26-2009, 06:37 PM
Wow a scenario like the French Revolution is a very probable way for the fall of Kira......basciall everyone boycotts and voices against him and what is he gonna do? Kill everyone? No, his deam of being recognized as a God will be shattered and he will die lonely and defeated

oby100
10-26-2009, 06:52 PM
Exactly, no rule of a perfect world if EVERYONE condemns and tries to kill you.

And, I have to say, it would be much more extreme than protesting. It would be more like Iran and North Korea dropping nukes all over Kira's hiding place; Japan. Or, even just, once he comes to power, people storming his house of residence and stringing him up in a tree.

Publicly hated dictators don't last long.

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-26-2009, 07:01 PM
I think Light though would never show his true face to the world, he wants to be recognized and worshiped indirectly. Didnt Light kill the Pope or someone high up in the Church like that to prove a point that hes a God?
Anways I believe people might have pinpointed that Kira lives in Japan then the whole world would pressure Japan to surrender/find him..........wouldnt it be something is Light is captured and he paraded through like tokyo,Rome or New york on the main street as a defeated enemy? A public humiliation with everyone seeing his true face and seeing the fall of a madman
Its almost ironic but justifeid isnt it :)

oby100
10-26-2009, 10:46 PM
I think Light though would never show his true face to the world, he wants to be recognized and worshiped indirectly. Didnt Light kill the Pope or someone high up in the Church like that to prove a point that hes a God?
Anways I believe people might have pinpointed that Kira lives in Japan then the whole world would pressure Japan to surrender/find him..........wouldnt it be something is Light is captured and he paraded through like tokyo,Rome or New york on the main street as a defeated enemy? A public humiliation with everyone seeing his true face and seeing the fall of a madman
Its almost ironic but justifeid isnt it :)

Ya, everyone knows the exact province Kira is in from L's initial broadcast. The pope? I don't know. And every country would pressure Japan to find him, but they would soon resort to more drastic measures like invasion or carpet bombing of province. It would be hilarious to see Kira paraded around the world like the olympic torch.

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-26-2009, 11:55 PM
Lol Light is sold on ebay

shircissat
10-28-2009, 12:50 AM
I accept with information: Both Light and Lelouch were pretty insane, and they both started out doing what seemed to be the right thing, even if it was a little extreme. However, Lelouch never forgot what he was fighting for, no matter how crazy he went or how many people he killed.

ekim
10-28-2009, 01:05 AM
contrary to the fact that the same theams are exsplored they are two very diffrent animes.

also pick any two random animes and i gureentee you will find a few simlaritys



anyway leloutch has a human side and shows emotion kira does not.

L is not a hero suzaku is and has deep personal motivation he also evolves over the show l doesn';t

leloutch changes as well he evolves

kira DE evolves he slowly decets in to madnes as the power of the death note takes controll. actuly i think of him like in that tennis game. twords the beging he was cool but twords the end he got lost in it. what if he had lost. what do you think would have gone threw his mind while the last point was still up for grabes.

yway code
also shirly is not misa.
misa is hotter but dum-er. shirly is well:blushing::blushing:

anyway code geass is not death note there are simlaritys and the same themes are expslored but in diffrent ways and styles

oby100
10-28-2009, 06:45 PM
Pardon me for my rudeness, but you really need to work on your spelling and grammar ekim!

Although I agree Light never shows any real emotions that are not concern for himself, I'd disagree that Suzaku could be considered a hero.

When Mao read Suzaku's mind, he discovers that Suzaku was just suicidal, going on dangerous rescue missions hoping he will die.

I believe I'd agree that Suzaku and Lelouche evolved positively as the series progressed as both discovered parts of themselves they'd tried to cover up and by the end they've gone from idealistic children, to mature adults.

But saying Light devolved is a little one sided. The important part is that his character moved forward and changed, for better or for worse. He kept the viewers interested as he went from calm and collected, to manic and hysterical.

Unfortunately, I couldn't understand your analogy to the tennis game as being a theme of the series.

TeruBainVincint~UMP~
10-28-2009, 09:25 PM
Tennis in Deatnote as a theme?...........it only happened one time if I was correct and O yeah Light and Lelouch both matured and evolved......just one completed redemption and died with honor and the other became a sociopath and couldnt accept defeat in his final hour.

oby100
10-31-2009, 05:39 PM
Just because the event only happened once doesn't mean the significance of it is lesser, since reoccurring events is a motif. I think what he was trying to communicate was that their tennis match represents the battle between their minds that they'd been waging for a while, and now it was being translated into physical contact.

And the physical contact happened again when they were handcuffed together and always punched or kicked each other (which was hilarious imo).

MrDuck
11-08-2009, 12:25 AM
Lights influence can be passed on, but passing on his power would lead to a corrupt leader. And if he is going to be god of his new world, he needs to be seen in public, right? And if he did, someone would assassinate this cruel and ruthless dictator, and the death note would be put into a history museum as the ramblings of a crazed psychopath. He can't truly rule in the shadows.

Well when Light got one of his fans to use the Death Note, he did basically what Light would have done, except a lil bit faster. A HitlerV2 could rise up in Geassville and kill everyone but we dont know. A lot of this is just "what if".

It's much easier to pass on Zero's influence because it's just a mask, and we don't know how much power really had after Lelouche was killed. He could have just acted as a peace embassador while a more democratic government was put into place.

So is Suzaku gonna be a mute for the rest of his life? What he says as Zero could change a lot of things, possibly for the worse if he's not carefull. Oh and Zero was a symbol of justice and someone who is strong who protects the common-folk. If he traded in his gun for basket of flowers, he's not really Zero.

Of course, but how many names can he write in a day? Isn't it possible to run out of the Death Note? And don't you think some countries would rebel and cut themselves off from outside communication to stop Kira?

Impossible to run out, the pages magically replace themselves. Well they didnt because for a few years Kira just punished people freely, and some countries accepted his judgement.


Not really the same at all. Every culture takes pride in it's own culture and wouldn't just absorb Japan's new god. Besides, he's not killing criminals in every town, in every country, in every continent. Therefore, it would take his entire lifetime to convince everyone of Kira.

And I believe that as a last resort, the U.S., North Korea, Russia and other countries wouldn't just sit and take Kira's judgment. They would all much sooner nuke the hell out of Japan then surrender to Kira. I mean, we invaded Iraq over the SUSPICION of nukes. With a guaranteed WMD in Japan, I think even the U.N. would be on our side.

For 1st paragraph see above.

Well because of this one guy who is killing criminals, bad people, you would destroy tens of millions of innocent civillians? Imagine what that would do for the kira supporters/people who think its an outrade to do this. Possible worldwide revolutions/WWIII

MrYoSo901
11-08-2009, 01:34 AM
oooooh oby looks like you found another one who quotes a lot on your posts XD

oby100
11-09-2009, 08:23 PM
Well when Light got one of his fans to use the Death Note, he did basically what Light would have done, except a lil bit faster. A HitlerV2 could rise up in Geassville and kill everyone but we dont know. A lot of this is just "what if".

They are not "what ifs." You have to look at history and how the original leader's ideal society always mutates with each passing successor. If you'd like to look at the Roman Empire and the downgrade in quality from Augustus to Nero or Germany and the upgrade in cruelty from Bismark to Hitler then it's obvious that all great nations end up with corrupt leaders (even the U.S. had Nixon).

And can you imagine someone like Mikimi picking a successor? His extreme nature was only held back by Light, so he'd likely to pick someone with just as radical views as him. In the end, one leader decides no one deserves to live.

So is Suzaku gonna be a mute for the rest of his life? What he says as Zero could change a lot of things, possibly for the worse if he's not carefull. Oh and Zero was a symbol of justice and someone who is strong who protects the common-folk. If he traded in his gun for basket of flowers, he's not really Zero.

What? Of course Suzaku is going to talk. And Zero isn't just a military leader/ vigilante. In fact, he is a universal symbol for everyone as said in the episode that everyone dresses like Zero.

And in the closing to the series where Kallen narrates how the world has been, she notes how it has changed for the better, so obviously Suzaku didn't screw anything up. He could just serve as a reminder of the horror the world went through with Lelouche, and how Zero rescued them from a world in constant warfare.

Impossible to run out, the pages magically replace themselves. Well they didnt because for a few years Kira just punished people freely, and some countries accepted his judgement.

As I thought. And it never said some countries were not growing angry. Besides, he never got around to killing major politicians he thought were ill fitting. Imagine the reactions of North Korea, Muslim extremist groups, Iran, Russian and the U.S. once he starts actually assassinating politicians in his name? How did the Great War begin again?

It's a declaration of war and they will all react with vengence! For all we know, Japan's government is behind this using the guise of Kira to hide from the international community. Now that would start WWIII, with only one outcome: Japan and Kira's complete destruction. And it sounds like third world countries not worth mentioning support Kira because he provides justice in lawless countries such as Somalia. But in countries with a stable justice system, he is noting but a vigilante pest.


For 1st paragraph see above.

Don't be lazy! I found nothing above that addresses the issue of nationalism which is the very foundation of countries.

Well because of this one guy who is killing criminals, bad people, you would destroy tens of millions of innocent civillians? Imagine what that would do for the kira supporters/people who think its an outrade to do this. Possible worldwide revolutions/WWIII

Well we already dropped two on Japan. And who says it's one person doing the killings? I'm with the CIA and I have reliable sources that all say Japan's government is secretly behind the Kira killings (allusion to CIA's insistence that Iraq had WMD's based on "conclusive evidence"). Therefore, we must act on L's conclusions and destroy the area where the WMD is most likely to be found (the section of Japan L broadcasted to). Just like that, Light dies.

@YoSo
I realize. And I thought you were the only one... lol Which side are you on again?

Sanime
11-09-2009, 10:39 PM
Zero = Digimon Emperor :paperbag:

Drops*Of*Jupiter
01-01-2010, 02:27 PM
Both shows have a protagonist who is granted a power, and use it to do morally questionable things for the greater good. Both have magnificently dastardly protagonists, but I'm going to throw out some flame bait here and say that Lelouch is slightly more sympathetic, but you mileage may vary. Both animes are also pretty well dubbed IMO. Lelouch and Light are both anti-heroes, but ultimately you'll probably end up hoping they win.